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VMS beginner having issues setting up networking
Hello all!
I've been following Raymii's guide to setting up hobbyist amd64/VMS to the letter, and yet my VM is unable to ping outside addresses; anytime I attempt to, it throws “ping: sendto: no route to host” for IP addresses, or “%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable” for named websites. What do I do?
I've been following Raymii's guide to setting up hobbyist amd64/VMS to the letter, and yet my VM is unable to ping outside addresses; anytime I attempt to, it throws “ping: sendto: no route to host” for IP addresses, or “%SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable” for named websites. What do I do?
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What does the following command show?...
$TCPIP SHOW ROUTE/FULL
$TCPIP SHOW ROUTE/FULL
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> I've been following Raymii's guide [...]
Not a very detailed description of what _you_ did.
> % - Execute SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG.COM to proceed with configuration of
> % VSI TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS.
And you did what, exactly, there? Hint:
1 - Core environment
3 - Routing
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$ TCPIP SHOW ROUTE/FULL
DYNAMIC
Type Destination Gateway
AH * 127.0.0.1 LOCALHOST * 127.0.0.1 LOCALHOST
AN * 192.168.56.0/24 * 192.168.56.1 vmsvm1
AH * 192.168.56.1 vmsvm1 * 192.168.56.1 vmsvm1
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Everything listed in Raymii's guide, with names, IP addresses, etc. changed to reflect the local operating environment, up to the end of the “Network setup” section of part 2.sms wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:59 pmNot a very detailed description of what you did.
And you did what, exactly, there? Hint:Code: Select all
% - Execute SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG.COM to proceed with configuration of % VSI TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS.
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1 - Core environment 3 - Routing
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Re: VMS beginner having issues setting up networking
Do you have anything else on the 192.168.56.0/24 network?
If so, can you ping it?
You don't show a default route, so anything beyond 192.168.56.0/24 is logically unreachable.
--Larry
If so, can you ping it?
You don't show a default route, so anything beyond 192.168.56.0/24 is logically unreachable.
--Larry
Long time system manager of many PDP-8, PDP-11, VAX, & Alpha systems and clusters
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No; the only thing there is the VM, whose network is bridged to the host computer's Ethernet adapter. I fully admit that I don't know how to do things Properly, and even beginner's guides like raymii aren't being as helpful as I'd like.larryfahnoe wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:05 pmDo you have anything else on the 192.168.56.0/24 network?
If so, can you ping it?
You don't show a default route, so anything beyond 192.168.56.0/24 is logically unreachable.
--Larry
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Perhaps you should try the same network configuration on a VM with a different OS because I suspect you would get the same result. Not a VMS issue, just basic IP networking. Even if the network is bridged, you need to either have a gateway defined (and a router on the same subnet) or something else on that subnet in order to ping anything.No; the only thing there is the VM, whose network is bridged to the host computer's Ethernet adapter.
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> Everything listed in Raymii's guide, with names, IP addresses, etc.
> changed to reflect the local operating environment, [...]
> Not a very detailed description of what _you_ did.
Still true.
> You don't show a default route, [...]
Exactly. Around here, for example:
V87 $ TCPIP SHOW ROUTE/FULL
DYNAMIC
Type Destination Gateway
AN * 0.0.0.0 * 10.0.0.1 gw <===
AN * 10.0.0.0/24 * 10.0.0.184 v87
AH * 10.0.0.184 v87 * 10.0.0.184 v87
AH * 127.0.0.1 LOCALHOST * 127.0.0.1 LOCALHOST
"10.0.0.1" is the address of the LAN side of my router.
> [...] just basic IP networking. [...]
Looks that way to me. It might help if you provided some information
on your Internet connection and your LAN. Router?
> AH * 192.168.56.1 vmsvm1 * 192.168.56.1 vmsvm1
You chose that address _why_, exactly? What are the addresses of
other devices on your LAN?
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How does one do that under VMS? My search-fu is failing me, and I hate myself for it. ;@.@larryfahnoe wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:26 pmEven if the network is bridged, you need to either have a gateway defined (and a router on the same subnet) or something else on that subnet in order to ping anything.No; the only thing there is the VM, whose network is bridged to the host computer's Ethernet adapter.
My Internet connection is cable Internet provided by Spectrum through an Arris cable modem and a Sagemcom F@st5260 router.
I didn't choose it; Windows assigned it to VirtualBox' host-only adapter when I installed it. Addresses of other devices on my LAN include:sms wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:07 pmYou chose that address _why_, exactly? What are the addresses of other devices on your LAN?Code: Select all
> AH * 192.168.56.1 vmsvm1 * 192.168.56.1 vmsvm1
192.168.1.1: router
192.168.1.169: my desktop
plus various laptops, cellphones, game consoles, and Roku connected via Wi-Fi.
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> How does one do that under VMS? [...]
Add a default route? See above:
> [...] Hint:
>
> 1 - Core environment
> 3 - Routing
> I didn't choose it; Windows assigned it to VirtualBox' [...]
I know approximately nothing about VirtualBox, especially how it does
networking, but that sounds unlikely to me.
> 192.168.1.1: router
> 192.168.1.169: my desktop
Ok. Then normally you'd want the VMS system to have an address on
the same subnet. Then the default route gateway would be your router
(LAN side, "192.168.1.1"). (Use SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG.COM, or a
command like "TCPIP SET ROUTE /DEFAULT_ROUTE /GATEWAY = 192.168.1.1".)
If there's some good reason for the VMS VM interface to have an
address on a different subnet (like, say, "192.168.56.x"), then I'd
expect something on the Windows system (with a different "192.168.56.y"
address) to act as a router between that subnet and the Windows-network
subnet ("192.168.1.x"). Otherwise, "no route to host" would seem to be
an accurate description of the situation.
Knowing what I do about VirtualBox, I'd guess that you did something
wrong with its network configuration. I would not expect "56" to appear
out of thin air, and I would not expect any client device to default to
any "x.y.z.1" address. (But what do I know?)
As you can see, above, in my VMware (Fusion Player) environment, my
LAN subnet is "10.0.0.x", the VMS VM interface address is "10.0.0.184",
and the _router_ (LAN) address is "10.0.0.1". And I don't recall
telling VMware anything about network addresses.