Customer experience with hypervisors untested by VSI

[marty.stu]

Dear OpenVMS users,

Please use this thread to report your experience with different hypervisors not listed by VSI as compatible with the latest OpenVMS release. For the list of the hypervisors that were proven to be compatible by VSI staff, refer to this document (Section 1.2. Tested Platforms).

[blackbird]

Tried to setup a node as a guest in FreeBSD 13 using bhyve as hypervisor.
Suitable disks created, iso mounted and accessed the guest via vnc and serial port.

Bootmanager is loaded but no interaction possible via mouse or keyboard, serial port shows no activity.

[mike632t]

I've managed to get VMS 9.2-1 installed on qemu on Debian (Buster)

Unfortunately I am unable to get the installer to start when using Debian (Bullseye).

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$ virsh version
Compiled against library: libvirt 7.0.0
Using library: libvirt 7.0.0
Using API: QEMU 7.0.0
Running hypervisor: QEMU 5.2.0

$ kvm --version
QEMU emulator version 5.2.0 (Debian 1:5.2+dfsg-11+deb11u2)
Copyright (c) 2003-2020 Fabrice Bellard and the QEMU Project developers
$ 

Rather then executing the VMS boot manager the boot process drops into the shell, and any attempts to execute the VMS boot manager fail with the error message 'access denied'... (which I think is why it drops into the shell in the first place).

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UEFI Interactive Shell v2.2
EDK II
UEFI v2.70 (EDK II, 0x00010000)
Mapping table
      FS0: Alias(s):CD0c65535a0:;BLK1:
          PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1F,0x2)/Sata(0x2,0xFFFF,0x0)/CDROM(0x0)
     BLK0: Alias(s):
          PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1F,0x2)/Sata(0x2,0xFFFF,0x0)
     BLK2: Alias(s):
          PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x2,0x1)/Pci(0x0,0x0)/Scsi(0x0,0x0)
Press ESC in 1 seconds to skip startup.nsh or any other key to continue.
Shell> map FS0: 
Mapping table
      FS0: Alias(s):CD0c65535a0:;BLK1:
          PciRoot(0x0)/Pci(0x1F,0x2)/Sata(0x2,0xFFFF,0x0)/CDROM(0x0)
Shell> FS0:\EFI\VMS\VMS_BOOTMGR.EFI
Command Error Status: Access Denied
Shell> 

Something has obviously changed between QEMU versions. However, on a more positive note an existing virtual machine built on a Debian 10 host works as expected.

Any ideas welcome...

Mike T.

[hb]

Is "Secure Boot" enabled?

You also may want to compare the XML files (which you can dump with virsh dumpxml).

[mike632t]

Unfortunately I am unable to get the installer to start when using Debian (Bullseye).

I'm not sure what the problem actually is but it is but I managed to resolve it by uninstalling the ovmf package that is included with Debian 11 (bullseye) (2020.11-2+deb11u1) and replacing it with the ovmf package from Debian 10 (buster) (0~20181115.85588389-3+deb10u3).

For this change to be permanent you need to pin the older version to prevent apt from upgrading it the next time you run 'apt-get upgrade'.

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#nano /etc/apt/preferences.d/10-pinned-packages

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#Package: ovmf
#Pin: version 0~20181115.85588389-3+deb10u3
#Pin-Priority: 999
#

If there is a better solution let me know - Thanks

[thomas@ham]

I installed UTM virtual machines (V4.2.5 in App Store, latest V4.3.3 from github) with qemu x86 emulation on my MacBook M1.

Boot stucks at the very end of sysinit after mount of the system disk.
Maybe drivers are switching at this time, drive is sata (ahci).
Don't know how to investigate further !

As marked, %SYSINIT-I-CLRERL does not appear but should be there, also the pagefile is available.
It seems that the system disk could not be read at this time (also rms error)

Same behavior by booting distribution iso-image.

I converted an existing vmdk from my windows virtualbox to qcow2 on my Mac for booting.

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VSI OpenVMS Boot Manager: V9.2-1 Build 128

  ENABLED:  Symmetric Multi-Processing
  ENABLED:  Crash Dump Processing
  ENABLED:  Console output to Legacy COM 1 Port
  ENABLED:  Using Environment ROM

  Checking Required Processor Features:
  PASSED

  BOOT MANAGER DEVICE:  DKA0
  DEFAULT BOOT COMMAND: BOOT DKA0 0x01 0x00000081

  VIRTUAL MACHINE GUEST: 
  KVM (tm) No Mouse support; Use Command or Arrow Keys


  CONNECT A REMOTE TERMINAL SESSION NOW.

BOOTMGR> B 
Booting...

%VMS_BOOTMGR-I-ACPI,    No HPET (Clock). Using fallback clock source.


%VMS_BOOTMGR-I-HWRPB,   Unable to determine System Serial Number


%%%%%%%%%%% VSI OpenVMS (tm) x86-64 %%%%%%%%%%%


_______________________________________________

      GRAPHICAL OUTPUT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED
      USE A TERMINAL UTILITY FOR ACCESS
_______________________________________________

VSI Primary Kernel SYSBOOT May 16 2023 13:21:17

%SYSBOOT-I-VMTYPE, Booting as a KVM (tm) Guest

SYSBOOT> SET VAXCLUSTER 0
SYSBOOT> C


        VMS Software, Inc. OpenVMS (TM) x86_64 Operating System, V9.2-1  
                    Copyright 2023 VMS Software, Inc.

  MDS Mitigation active, variant knight(KNIGHTS LANDING/KNIGHTS MILL)
%SWAPPER-I-SHUFFLE, executing SWAPPER initialization code
%SWAPPER-I-POOL, initializing paged pool
%SWAPPER-I-INIT, calling initialization routines
%SWAPPER-I-RSDM, joining system resource domain
%SWAPPER-I-P1, initializing SWAPPER P1 cells
%SWAPPER-I-PAGED, paged system initialization
%SWAPPER-I-HASH, creating the logical name hash tables
%SWAPPER-I-DEFINE, defining the system logical names
%SWAPPER-I-CREPRC, creating the SYSINIT process
%SWAPPER-I-MAINLOOP, entering SWAPPER main loop
%SWAPPER-I-INSWAP, inswapped process EPID: 00000082 PID: 00010002 PCB: FFFFFFFF81CB6280

%SYSINIT-I-START, SYSINIT process execution begins
%SYSINIT-I-UNLOAD, unloading EXEC_INIT
%SYSINIT-I-ENTROPY, starting entropy harvest collector

%ENTROPY-I-HWRANDEN, RDRAND instruction enabled for entropy services.

%SYSINIT-I-AUDIT, initializing security auditing
%SYSINIT-I-LOAD, loading RECOVERY_UNIT_SERVICES.EXE
%SYSINIT-I-LOAD, loading DDIF$RMS_EXTENSION.EXE
%SYSINIT-I-LOAD, loading SYSMSG.EXE
%SYSINIT-I-LOAD, loading VMS_EXTENSION.EXE
%SYSINIT-I-LOAD, loading NT_EXTENSION.EXE
%SYSINIT-I-LOAD, loading MULTIPATH(_MON).EXE
%SYSINIT-I-ALTLOAD, loading site specific execlets
 
Loaded Image List:
Seq  Image Name                      Base               End                Link Base
 5E  [SYS$LDR]MULTIPATH.EXE          FFFF8300.07ADC100  FFFF8300.07AEC830  00000000.80000000
 5C  [SYS$LDR]NT_EXTENSION.EXE       FFFF8300.07AD2000  FFFF8300.07AD7850  00000000.80000000
 5A  [SYS$LDR]VMS_EXTENSION.EXE      FFFF8300.07ACBF00  FFFF8300.07ACF780  00000000.80000000
 56  [SYS$LDR]DDIF$RMS_EXTENSION.EX  FFFF8300.07AC5E00  FFFF8300.07AC9428  00000000.80000000
 54  [SYS$LDR]RECOVERY_UNIT_SERVICE  FFFF8300.07AC1D00  FFFF8300.07AC38D0  00000000.80000000
 50  SYS$LDDRIVER                    FFFF8300.08782A00  FFFF8300.087A8310  00000000.80000000
 4E  SYS$SRDRIVER                    FFFF8300.08774700  FFFF8300.0877CF10  00000000.80000000
 4C  SYS$DKDRIVER                    FFFF8300.08741E00  FFFF8300.08768CB8  00000000.80000000
 4A  SYS$PKDDRIVER                   FFFF8300.08704F00  FFFF8300.08731578  00000000.80016000
 48  SYS$DMDRIVER                    FFFF8300.086EA700  FFFF8300.086EDF68  00000000.80000000
 46  SYS$TTDRIVER                    FFFF8300.086B9F00  FFFF8300.086DE028  00000000.80000000
 44  SYS$ISA_SUPPORT                 FFFF8300.086B3D00  FFFF8300.086B6910  00000000.80000000
 42  SYS$PCIE_SUPPORT                FFFF8300.08699500  FFFF8300.086AB2C8  00000000.80000000
 40  SWIS$DEBUG                      FFFF8300.08693300  FFFF8300.08696108  00000000.80000000
 3E  ACME                            FFFF8300.08678F00  FFFF8300.0868C6C0  00000000.80000000
 3C  SYS$MME_SERVICES                FFFF8300.08674E00  FFFF8300.08676C08  00000000.80000000
 3A  SYSLDR_DYN                      FFFF8300.0864A000  FFFF8300.08667948  00000000.80000000
 38  SYS$IPC_SERVICES                FFFF8300.08562A00  FFFF8300.08611910  00000000.80000000
 34  SYS$UTC_SERVICES                FFFF8300.08558600  FFFF8300.0855BC38  00000000.80000000
 32  SYS$TRANSACTION_SERVICES        FFFF8300.084F5200  FFFF8300.08533D80  00000000.80018000
 30  SYSLICENSE                      FFFF8300.084C2D00  FFFF8300.084D5F60  00000000.80006000
 2E  MESSAGE_ROUTINES                FFFF8300.0848E200  FFFF8300.084B3968  00000000.80000000
 2C  SYS$VM                          FFFF8300.08313600  FFFF8300.08446FF8  00000000.80000000
 2A  SYS$XFCACHE                     FFFF8300.08265200  FFFF8300.082E3FF0  00000000.80000000
 28  SYSGETSYI                       FFFF8300.08248C00  FFFF8300.0825C688  00000000.80000000
 26  SECURITY                        FFFF8300.081D5D00  FFFF8300.0822B200  00000000.80000000
 24  IMAGE_MANAGEMENT                FFFF8300.08180500  FFFF8300.081BFBD8  00000000.80000000
 22  RMS                             FFFF8300.07FAF700  FFFF8300.08115538  00000000.80002000
 20  F11BXQP                         FFFF8300.07E89400  FFFF8300.07F66270  00000000.80000000
 1E  LOGICAL_NAMES                   FFFF8300.07E68E00  FFFF8300.07E809E8  00000000.80000000
 1C  SHELL8K                         FFFF8300.07E5EB00  FFFF8300.07E65308  00000000.80000000
 1A  LOCKING                         FFFF8300.07E17F00  FFFF8300.07E4CA40  00000000.80000000
 18  PROCESS_MANAGEMENT              FFFF8300.07CE5300  FFFF8300.07DCB190  00000000.80000000
 16  SYSDEVICE                       FFFF8300.07CD3000  FFFF8300.07CDE480  00000000.80000000
 14  IO_ROUTINES                     FFFF8300.07BF4A00  FFFF8300.07C946C8  00000000.80000000
 12  EXCEPTION                       FFFF8300.07B32200  FFFF8300.07BCFB50  00000000.80000000
 0E  SYS$OPDRIVER                    FFFF8300.07AB3A00  FFFF8300.07ABC030  00000000.80000000
 0C  SYSTEM_SYNCHRONIZATION_UNI      FFFF8300.07A74A00  FFFF8300.07A9F920  00000000.80000000
 0A  SYSTEM_PRIMITIVES_7_MIN         FFFF8300.07965E00  FFFF8300.07968F68  00000000.80000000
 08  SYS$ACPI                        FFFF8300.0788A300  FFFF8300.07910C60  00000000.80000000
 06  ERRORLOG                        FFFF8300.07882000  FFFF8300.07887310  00000000.80000000
 04  SYS$PLATFORM_SUPPORT            FFFF8300.07814200  FFFF8300.078640D8  00000000.80000000
 02  SYS$BASE_IMAGE                  FFFF8300.07802100  FFFF8300.078101C0  00000000.80000000
 00  SYS$PUBLIC_VECTORS              FFFF8300.07800000  FFFF8300.07800028  00000000.80000000
 
%SYSINIT-I-TIME, setting the system time
%SYSINIT-I-SYSDISK, checking status of system disk
%SYSINIT-I-STACONFIG, STACONFIG finished
%SYSINIT-I-INIT, initializing the XQP
%SYSINIT-I-CLUSTER, cluster/lock manager initialization
%SYSINIT-I-SHADOW, shadow driver initialization
%SYSINIT-I-DEFINE, defining system logical names
%SYSINIT-I-MOUNT, mounting the system disk
%SYSINIT-I-TIME, setting the system time
%SYSINIT-I-FILCACHE, deallocating the primitive file cache
%SYSINIT-I-DEFINE, defining SYS$TOPSYS
%SYSINIT-I-MEMCONNECTING, connecting to memory disk
%SYSINIT-I-MEMCONNECTED, connected to memory disk
%SYSINIT-I-MEMDISK, using device $1$LDM6502:
%SYSINIT-I-RECERL, recovering error log buffers
%SYSINIT-I-CLRERL, clearing empty error log buffers <== This line is missing !
                                               
%RMS-F-BUG, fatal RMS condition (FFFFFFE5), process deleted
%RMS-F-BUG, fatal RMS condition (FFFFFFE5), process deleted

VSI Dump Kernel SYSBOOT May 16 2023 13:21:17

%SYSTEM-W-NOPAGEFILE, no pagefile installed; system trying to continue