DECWindows Applications

[whcox53]

I have been playing around with the DECWindows applications just to verify that they work now with E9.2-3. For the most part they seem to work. The displays look a little dated (but then, so do I.) I did run into a few issues.

I am running E9.2-3 and VirtualBox hosted on Windows 11 with Xming.

CMS, DTM, etc return a shareable image mismatch, which I would expect is due to needing to be relinked. I am hoping the next DECSET release (expecting this month) will correct that.

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The problem already reported in this forum with DECW$NOTEPAD still exists. A window opens briefly and then you get an ACCVIO. It looks the same.

%SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=04, virtual address=000000000000
0000, PC=FFFF83000981C73D, PS=0000001B

Improperly handled condition, image exit forced.
Signal arguments: Number = 0000000000000005
Name = 000000000000000C
0000000000000004
0000000000000000
FFFF83000981C73D
000000000000001B
Register dump:
RAX = 0000000000000000 RDI = 000000000016EAA0 RSI = 000000000016EAA4
RDX = 00000000001FC270 RCX = 0000000000000000 R8 = 0000000000174100
R9 = 00000000000D3CD0 RBX = 0000000000003180 RBP = 000000007ACAD1A0
R10 = 0000000000000006 R11 = 0000000000000246 R12 = 000000000012A230
R13 = 0000000000800051 R14 = 0000000000800053 R15 = 0000000000800051
RIP = FFFF83000981C73D RSP = 000000007ACAD190 SS = 0080006B00000000

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DECW$PAINT still fails and reports
Error: Visual Not Supported
Supported Visuals are {PseudoColor, GrayScale, StaticGray}

I have not tried the work-around suggested in the earlier post.

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CDA returns an odd error:
%DVR-F-NOMSG, Message number 035B81B4
I'm not sure if this is due to missing converters. I am not really familiar with CDA.

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DECW$SOUND appears to be a no-show. I have a feeling it would not provide any sound if it were there.
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Finally, I tried EDIT/TPU/DISPLAY=DECWINDOWS and it opens a screen, but nothing seems to work. I can select menu items, but it has no affect.

[hb]

I don't have this message file on x86, but ...

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$ set mess SYS$COMMON:[SYSMSG]DDIF$VIEWMSG.EXE
$ write sys$output f$message(%x035B81B4)
%DVR-F-DWVNOTFND,  DECwindows Viewer image not found
$

[hb]

CMS, DTM, etc return a shareable image mismatch, ...

Can you show the actual error[s]?

[whcox53]

Here is the CMS error:

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$ cms/interface=decwindows
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image DECW$DWTLIBSHR
-CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file VMSX86$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]DECW$DWTLIBSHR.EXE
-SYSTEM-F-SHRIDMISMAT, ident mismatch with shareable image
$

The CM executable is dated 24-Mar-2022. The DECW$DWTLIBSHR.EXE IS DATED 25-JUN-2024. All the DECW$ programs are likewise dated 25-Jun-2024. The DECSET package is supposed to be released this month. It had been scheduled for July, but was pushed out.

[hb]

/interface=decwindows causes DCL to activate CMS$DW.EXE, which is linked with

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        DECW$XMLIBSHR
            (LESS/EQUAL, 1., 1.)

and

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        DECW$DXMLIBSHR
            (LESS/EQUAL, 1., 1.)

as ANALYZE/IMAGE shows. However, these images have

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     Match Control
        Algorithm:                              LESS/EQUAL
        Major ID:                               5.
        Minor ID:                               1.

To me it looks like a big increase in the major id. There are probably reasons to increase the major id. And yes, a new kit and/or a new CMS$DW re-linked with the changed [D]XMLIBSHR images will fix this.

[jreagan]

I don't know why the major ID was increased. I'll ask.

[dmjb]

Finally, I tried EDIT/TPU/DISPLAY=DECWINDOWS and it opens a screen, but nothing seems to work. I can select menu items, but it has no affect.

Same with LSE for what it's worth (not too surprising since it's also based on TPU)

[whcox53]

I have installed the new DECSET V13.0-2 and things are working better. However, I still see this non-functional display when invoking LSE/interface=decwindows to edit a file.

Is that a known issue or did I miss something?

[joukj]

Wondering what version of RTL is installed in E9.2-3. I know that on AXP some applications (i.e. the DECwindows CDE-panel) have a problem with the latest versions of RTL (prior to V6.0)