Python x86 availability

[praetor]

Howdy!

So I'm sure this question gets asked over and over, but when will Python be generally available, and also, how can I find those things out myself without asking a hundred redundant questions.

A lot of the stuff in my office runs Python, but I'd rather implement it in Pascal, which is my first real language and I love it, but not sure if you can call the Paho C library from Pascal. The calling standard on OpenVMS is kinda confusing.

Thanks!

[marty.stu]

Hello,

The first part of your question was answered here: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=8783&p=19295#p19295.

As for the second part, please explain what you mean by 'those things'. Some of VMS Python related issues are explained in our Wiki. For example: https://wiki.vmssoftware.com/VMS-Specif ... on_Modules.

[arne_v]

So I'm sure this question gets asked over and over, but when will Python be generally available, and also, how can I find those things out myself without asking a hundred redundant questions.

You can see what is available here:

https://vmssoftware.com/products/list/? ... n%20Source

Timelines for what will become available is more tricky. Sometimes it is in the VMS roadmap. Sometimes something is posted here. Sometimes something is posted to comp.os.vms. Sometimes plans are publicized in various VSI arrangements.

[praetor]

That's what I meant by "those things". I see things referring to H2 of 2023, but not sure how the fiscal year runs for VSI.

Ideally, I'd like to develop all the OpenVMS stuff in my hobbyist telco in Pascal for performance reasons. But I know things like MQTT exist for Python and I'm still learning the calling standard of OpenVMS. Speaking of PraetorTEL. I just got my first subscriber today! He wanted access to my OpenVMS server, so that made me happy :3

So I'm sure this question gets asked over and over, but when will Python be generally available, and also, how can I find those things out myself without asking a hundred redundant questions.

You can see what is available here:

https://vmssoftware.com/products/list/? ... n%20Source

Timelines for what will become available is more tricky. Sometimes it is in the VMS roadmap. Sometimes something is posted here. Sometimes something is posted to comp.os.vms. Sometimes plans are publicized in various VSI arrangements.

[arne_v]

That's what I meant by "those things". I see things referring to H2 of 2023, but not sure how the fiscal year runs for VSI.

When VSI say 2023H2 I think you can assume calendar year.

Ideally, I'd like to develop all the OpenVMS stuff in my hobbyist telco in Pascal for performance reasons. But I know things like MQTT exist for Python and I'm still learning the calling standard of OpenVMS.

Which functtions from the PAHO C Client do you need?

I have created Pascal wrappers for MySQL, SQLIte, JSON, STOMP, Redis, HTTP and BDB. If it is a limited number of functions, then maybe I can create for PAHO as well.

[praetor]

You are a scholar and a gentleman, Arne!

I sent you a PMC :3

That's what I meant by "those things". I see things referring to H2 of 2023, but not sure how the fiscal year runs for VSI.

When VSI say 2023H2 I think you can assume calendar year.

Ideally, I'd like to develop all the OpenVMS stuff in my hobbyist telco in Pascal for performance reasons. But I know things like MQTT exist for Python and I'm still learning the calling standard of OpenVMS.

Which functtions from the PAHO C Client do you need?

I have created Pascal wrappers for MySQL, SQLIte, JSON, STOMP, Redis, HTTP and BDB. If it is a limited number of functions, then maybe I can create for PAHO as well.

[arne_v]

Teaser:

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$ write sys$output f$getsyi("VERSION")
V9.2-1
$ type hello.py
for i in range(3):
    print('Hello world from Python!')
$ jython hello.py
Hello world from Python!
Hello world from Python!
Hello world from Python!

[arne_v]

https://vmssoftware.com/products/python/

X86VMS-PYTHON-A0310-0-REL008-1.ZIP

[imiller]

That's exciting.
The release notes mentions a wheels package to install too - I guess it's not yet there but will keep an eye on the web site ...
I notice it currently lacks pandas

[cct]

That's exciting.
The release notes mentions a wheels package to install too - I guess it's not yet there but will keep an eye on the web site ...
I notice it currently lacks pandas

Wheels is in the ZIP File - the manifest file:

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  * ||| VMS Software Inc.  (X86_64)     03/24/2024 *
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  * Main Phone#: +1 (978) 451-0921                 *
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*   VSI Python V3.10.R8 Release for VSI OpenVMS X86  *
*   Version 9.2-2 Update 1 and later versions. VSI   *
*   Python WHLS Version 1.1-6Fix07 included in Pkg.  *
*   A Copy of the Release Notes is also included.    *
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   191878  03-22-2024 16:52   X86VMS-PYTHON-A0310-0-REL008-1-RNOTES.PDF
     1217  03-22-2024 17:10   MANIFEST.TXT
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