community licence

[christeroberg]

hello
i have applied for a comunity license and got an email with a download link to a hd image. i hae not been able to create a working vm with it, i was wondering is there a reason for not using ova as a distribution format? an ova would make things so much easier for users... maybe to keep people like me away(defcon 15 years ago )??that would be somewhat ironic since vms popped up for me recently in another research project and this time around suprised me by how well it stood up compared to some other systems

[hb]

The VMS knowledge you need here can be found in /dev/null. You need to find out how to enter a command in the VMS boot manager. No, this is not yet VMS it is an EFI-Applikationen similar to other boot managers. If you don't get into the VMS boot manager's command mode, please check the documentation. The command to enable "Display Detailed SYSINIT Messages", was already said. But the VMS boot manager also responds to the HELP command.

Maybe Virtual Box can save what VMS prints to the console. I don't remember, I switched to qemu/kvm long ago. I use a terminal emulator and start/connect to the VM from the command line on the host. Getting the text output is just cut&paste from the terminal emulator. But a terminal emulator can usually also log the session. I use xterm and it can.

[realtimecat1]

My primary research and development box is running Fedora with QEMU/KVM. I have successfully run OpenVMS, and enabled DECNET, connecting to SIMH instances of RSTS/E and RSX-11.

QEMU/KVM provides much more control of the environment than VirtualBox.

[christeroberg]

My primary research and development box is running Fedora with QEMU/KVM. I have successfully run OpenVMS, and enabled DECNET, connecting to SIMH instances of RSTS/E and RSX-11.

QEMU/KVM provides much more control of the environment than VirtualBox.

yeah... i'm firmely in the bsd camp, for me using linux only adds to the problem. idealy i'd like to use bhyve for all my vm needs, in this case virurtualbox would be acceptable on freebsd( i dont expect anyone would go out of their way to figure that out to help somone that at one point probably was the most hated person by vms users), I just know adding linux to the mix will be a sure way to have another stroke.. i'll work on virualbox some more, if it dosent work i got other Operating systems to test on my todo that probably are more relevant....again i really think vsi should consider ova over vmdks or maybe something like the testdrive program compaq used to have or better still something like deathrow if they still are confident in vms security..

[hb]

If you want someone to help you, please provide the above information. If you want to figure it out yourself, I still recommend enabling SYSINIT messages.

[christeroberg]

yeah maybe time to give up and spend time with something bit more relevant than vms... searched the forums tried setup scripts many times and still no luck and no idea how to enable better debug messages. I see a lot of people recommending kvm but in my experience when faced with problems linux is more likely to add to problems rather than solving them.. as many may know i have not been a fan of VMS, but i like to think that i'm fair so i'll say it and give it to vms it stood up far better than expected in our recent NFS research, never would have guessed vms left standing after free/openbsd/linux/pretty much every other unix fell/failed I reported a few bug almost 2 years ago (if you were wondering why its not shipping with an imap server in 9.2 i think i know why ) had a list of suspicious things i wanted to investigate further on x96 but guess that will have to wait