For Moderators - Any clue when BASIC will be released?

[soutbarr]

Are there any hints for when the BASIC compiler will be released?

[m_detommaso]

I'm sure they're working on it.

VSI released VMS922X_UPDATE-V0100 kit on 08.03.2024; in the release notes I find:


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5.11 Add support for packed decimal routines needed for BASIC

5.11.1 Problem Description

The following routines were added to the Object Time System (OTS) to enable packed decimal use required by the BASIC compiler.

- OTS$ADDP
- OTS$CMPP
- OTS$ASHP

These emulate the VAX instructions ADDPx, CMPPx and ASHP.

5.11.2 Images and/or Files Affected:

[SYSLIB]LIBOTS2.EXE

5.11.3 VSI case identifier Jiras RTLS-42, RTLS-424, DEV-2015
5.11.4 Release Version of VSI OpenVMS that will contain this change:
Next VSI OpenVMS x86-64 release after V9.2-2
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5.15 Add support for x86 to BASIC Run-Time Library

5.15.1 Problem Description

Various modules in the BASIC RTL have been enhanced to enable x86-64 support. This includes support to:

- Extend some arguments from 32-bit integers to 64-bitintegers
- Change conditional compilation symbols
- Update packed-decimal floating point passing mechanisms.

5.15.2 Images and/or Files Affected:

[SYSLIB]DEC$BASRTL.EXE

5.15.3 VSI case identifier

Jira RTLS-423

5.15.4 Release Version of VSI OpenVMS that will contain this change:

Next VSI OpenVMS x86-64 release after V9.2-2
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/Maurizio

[arne_v]

Are there any hints for when the BASIC compiler will be released?

I doubt that VSI will want to make a formal commitment.

Based on hearsay adding the day of the months and subtracting the current wind speed, then March or April - aka soon.

[roberbrooks]

> Based on hearsay adding the day of the months and subtracting the current wind speed, then March or April - aka soon

I'd expect no later than June, perhaps sooner.

[imiller]

Hopefully an updated roadmap will appear and give a hint

[arne_v]

> Based on hearsay adding the day of the months and subtracting the current wind speed, then March or April - aka soon

I'd expect no later than June, perhaps sooner.

So May-June not March-April.

That is a few month.

I think Basic is eagerly awaited.

Different people are of course waiting for different stuff, but my guess would be that the top 3 items being waited for are Basic, Python and Rdb. And Rdb is Oracle not VSI.

[arne_v]

Looks like a FT version is out!!!!

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Anyone from VSI that are willing to make an informed guess on when Python will be available for VMS x86-64?

[pocketprobe]

Awesome. And then when we see python we can get some modern automation tooling running on VMS.

[arne_v]

Just to be clear: we are waiting for Python for x86-64. Python is available for VMS Itanium (and old 2.7 is available for VMS Alpha).

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And also note that if Python 2.7 is good enough and one does not suffer from J allergy then Jython 2.7 runs fine on VMS x86-64.

Even though I would suggesting going for Groovy 4.0 instead of Jython 2.7 for a scripting solution unless there is a strong dependency on existing Python skills or Python libraries.

[neilrieck]

Just to be clear: we are waiting for Python for x86-64. Python is available for VMS Itanium (and old 2.7 is available for VMS Alpha).

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And also note that if Python 2.7 is good enough and one does not suffer from J allergy then Jython 2.7 runs fine on VMS x86-64.

Even though I would suggesting going for Groovy 4.0 instead of Jython 2.7 for a scripting solution unless there is a strong dependency on existing Python skills or Python libraries.

On March-18 VSI told me "end of March, beginning of April".

As for your other comments, a lot of companies are jettisoning Java so Jython should be off the table.

IMHO, Cpython is the only way to go. But more importantly, I'd like to see a mysql or mariadb connector added to the wheels thingy.