Java 11 or above?


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Java 11 or above?

Post by ssamayoa » Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:43 am

I wonder if someone is porting java 11 or above to OpenVMS.

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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by arne_v » Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:55 pm

Latest on VMS is 8 (x86-64 and Itanium, Alpha is stuck on 5).

Given the importance of Java then it seems obvious that VSI will need to provide new versions.

If I were to guess then I would guess that they will skip 11 and do 17.
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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by pustovetov » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:03 pm

ssamayoa wrote:
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I wonder if someone is porting java 11 or above to OpenVMS.
I'm porting Java 17 to OpenVMS.

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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by arne_v » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:53 pm

It will be nice to see 17 on VMS.

:-)

Note though that updating from 8 to newer (11/17/21) may cause some small update problems. 11 removed a few things from Java SE including JAX-WS and JAXB.

Not a big problem - both JAX-WS and JAXB can be downloaded and used for free, but still work to be done.

Not anything VSI can do anything about either as it is a change on all platforms, but still work to be done.
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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by pustovetov » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:58 pm

arne_v wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:53 pm
Note though that updating from 8 to newer (11/17/21) may cause some small update problems. 11 removed a few things from Java SE including JAX-WS and JAXB.
We will of course support both versions of Java on x86.

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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by arne_v » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:51 pm

Any prediction for when Java 17 will be out?

Will it be for both Itanium and x86-64 or only for x86-64?

(I somewhat suspect the latter - I seems to recall something about newer Java versions requiring newer C++ version to build)
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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by pustovetov » Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:57 am

arne_v wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:51 pm
Any prediction for when Java 17 will be out?

Will it be for both Itanium and x86-64 or only for x86-64?
Only for x86, since we don't have new C++ on Itanium. On x86 we don't have C++ support for TLS (thread local storage) yet, but this can be worked around.
I hope to finish the porting by the end of autumn.


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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by ssamayoa » Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:03 am

pustovetov wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:57 am
I hope to finish the porting by the end of autumn.
Cool!


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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by pocketprobe » Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:13 am

I think by then I'll be up for running another game of Minecraft. I'll be sure to share feedback.
Is the update for Java 8 still in the pipeline as well, or is that being skipped for Java 11?


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Re: Java 11 or above?

Post by pustovetov » Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:41 pm

pocketprobe wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:13 am
Is the update for Java 8 still in the pipeline as well, or is that being skipped for Java 11?
I'm writing a readme file for Java V8.0-412A right now. So yes, we'll ship the update in mid-August.

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