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Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:48 pm
by aussiesusan
Environment: Windows 11 (fully patched) on an IntelNUC PC.
Installed VirtualBox 7.0.14r161095.

From the email I have downloaded the VMDK zip file and expanded ot to get the 2 VMDK files ('community' at 637 bytes, and 'community_flat' at 5.37GB).

Using the link in the email (https://d2h1r304.na1.hubspotlinks.com/C ... jf9fL1Z204) and following the 'Windows GUI' section, I get to the guide in step 2 (https://docs.vmssoftware.com/vsi-openvm ... eateVboxVM) but there my problem starts.

Step b) says to set the ISO image to the OpenVMS ISO file - is that the VMDK? If so which one?

If I try to use the VMDK image (either one) I get
Failed to open the disk image file C:\Users\Susan\Downloads\community.vmdk.

The medium 'C:\Users\Susan\Downloads\community.vmdk' can't be used as the requested device type (DVD, detected HDD).

Result Code:E_FAIL (0X80004005)
Component:MediumWrap
Interface:IMedium {ad47ad09-787b-44ab-b343-a082a3f2dfb1}
Callee:IVirtualBox {7682d5eb-f00e-44f1-8ca2-99d08b1cd607}
Callee RC:VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0X80BB0001)
What am I doing worng?

Susan

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:18 am
by sms

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> ATTACHMENTS

   Ok, but...

> It's not pretty, [...]

   Agreed.  Around here (Mac, Pages), too many apparent (red) spelling
complaints make the "Linux Shell" commands very hard to read.

> [...] a Microsoft Word document. [...]

   Export as PDF (so that a web browser can render it without help)?

> [...] You may be asking yourself why I am discussing it at all, [...]

   Yup.  If it's "not worth going into here", then don't go into it
here.  Mysterious clutter is unhelpful to the reader.


   In the original:

      c. Go to Network.
         i.   Click the "Attached to" dropdown and select "Host-only
              Adapter".

   I'll admit much ignorance as to the inner workings of VM network
configuration, but does a "Host-only" (equivalent to "Private to my Mac"
in VMware Fusion?) adapter mean that the VM is accessible to only the
host system?  Around here, I use "Bridged Networking" with a dedicated
adapter (not used by the host-system OS).  And anyone on my LAN can
communicate with my VMs.

   Many users might not care, but, when different options exist, I might
not say "do it this way" without mentioning the other options and their
pros and cons.

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:54 am
by martinv
> [...] a Microsoft Word document. [...]

Export as PDF (so that a web browser can render it without help)?
Done. I've done some reformatting and changed the IMHO wrongly capitalized "vboxmanage" command to "VBoxManage".
In the original:

c. Go to Network.
i. Click the "Attached to" dropdown and select "Host-only Adapter".

I'll admit much ignorance as to the inner workings of VM network configuration, but does a "Host-only" (equivalent to "Private to my Mac" in VMware Fusion?) adapter mean that the VM is accessible to only the host system? Around here, I use "Bridged Networking" with a dedicated adapter (not used by the host-system OS). And anyone on my LAN can communicate with my VMs.

Many users might not care, but, when different options exist, I might not say "do it this way" without mentioning the other options and their pros and cons.
Quite right.

That's why I've configured two network adapters on the VM - one bridged for the outside world, one host-only for the host system. Done that with SimH VAX and Alphas, too. And it has always been working well.

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:51 pm
by karl
Thanks all for the suggestions getting the VM working. I am currently using a windows machine for this.The problem now is getting putty configured correctly. I can connect but the settings are not right and I cant interact with the machine. I get a strange window popping up that asks me what language I want to use. Any ideas?

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:22 pm
by snadow
Configuring PuTTY correctly can be an adventure in itself, as you noticed. Try this information that VSI has published.

https://docs.vmssoftware.com/vsi-openvm ... 92#d0e3471

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:40 pm
by karl
Thanks snadow, that was helpful. I was able to get putty configured as per the document you referenced. Now I am having the same problem that pocketprobe referenced on Apr 12 : "This machine does NOT meet the requirements for running OpenVMS." which is strange since I also followed the amended instructions. I dont think my windows laptop has hyper-v but I note that WSL is installed at C:\Windows\System32 - I don't use this so not sure why its there.

Added in 1 hour 8 minutes 45 seconds:
I repeated all the steps and made a new VM. When I connect via putty I get the same error. I did a screen grab of what was being displayed on the VM but I don't understand it.
openvms_console_screengrab.pdf
(251.66 KiB) Downloaded 15 times

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:15 am
by martinv
The reason for the failure is given in the lines above the error message: "No XSAVE instruction". This is probably due to Hyper-V being active. See this thread for some background information and potentially remedial action.

I have experienced the same error, tried a lot of things, and finally gave up on it. I'm now running OpenVMS x86_64 under VMware Wokstation Player.

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:52 am
by karl
Thank you for this information. Arggh. Maybe time to go with linux.

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:54 pm
by arne_v
VirtualBox seems to be a hassle to get working due to this.

Pick something else. I also use VMWare Player.

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:17 pm
by cct
Isn't the problem with VMWare license fees now Broadcom have it?

I set up a reasonable Intel machine, running Ubuntu, and run KVM/QEMU, I found it very good, and easy to use

Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:33 pm
by arne_v
cct wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:17 pm
Isn't the problem with VMWare license fees now Broadcom have it?
They dropped the free ESXi.

I am not aware that they have dropped the free for non-commercial usage Player.