Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

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Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by soutbarr » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:25 pm

I don't need much in terms of networking. I just need the ability to get files in, have my router assign the ip address and telnet in via other computers on the same network. Along with FTP so I can install the layered products that aren't in it by default

OPENVMS-X86-BOE has been registered. Along with a bunch of others.

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Right now the documentation for getting all that going is as clear as mud to me. My primary goal is to create a user account which I can do software development on. I have never done configuration of VMS before.


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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by sms » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:37 pm

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> I don't need much in terms of networking. [...]

   You might start with:

      @ SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG.COM

> Right now the documentation for getting all that going is as clear as
> mud to me. [...]

   Which "the documentation" is that?

      https://docs.vmssoftware.com/

> [...] My primary goal is to create a user account which I can do
> software development on. [...]

   Until you do some reading, you can work as user SYSTEM.

> [...] I have never done configuration of VMS before.

   That was becoming increasingly obvious.  Asking how to do every minor
task instead of reading some of the (extensive) documentation is an
excellent way to lose potential helpers.


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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by snadow » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:08 pm

soutbarr wrote:
I don't need much in terms of networking. I just need the ability to get files in, have my router assign the ip address and telnet in via other computers on the same network. Along with FTP so I can install the layered products that aren't in it by default
<snip>
Right now the documentation for getting all that going is as clear as mud to me. My primary goal is to create a user account which I can do software development on. I have never done configuration of VMS before.
I found this page to be helpful in getting TCP/IP and SSH configured: https://raymii.org/s/blog/OpenVMS_9.2_f ... art_2.html

However you'll probably still need to spend some time reading the "official" VMS documentation too.

Scott


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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by soutbarr » Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:30 pm

Thanks that really helped


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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by soutbarr » Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:43 pm

Well telnet and DHCP are working. FTP is semi working.

With the install I did recently it was working with SFTP server on port 22. I was able to download and upload files.

Now I don't get SFTP but normal FTP on port 22. I can download whatever I want. Uploading into the system gives me this error.
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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by pocketprobe » Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:51 pm

Which FTP client is this?
Many seem to not understand VMS paths. I used filezilla, and that works fine. Cyberduck wouldn't connect.


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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by soutbarr » Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:56 pm

WinSCP I used it last time but now it doesn't work, I'll try a different client


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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by sms » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:07 pm

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> Attachments

   As usual, actual plain text would be easier to work with than a
picture of plain text.  Copy+paste is your friend.

   I'm not amazed that a UNIX+VMS mix like
"/SYS$SYSROOT:[000000.SYSMGR]" would result in a complaint about the
file spec syntax.

> WinSCP I used it last time but now it doesn't work, [...]

   "doesn't work" is not a useful problem description.  It does not say
what you did.  It does not say what happened when you did it.  As usual,
showing actual actions (commands) with their actual results (error
messages, ...) can be more helpful than vague descriptions or
interpretations.

> [...] I'll try a different client

   I'd expect the simple Windows command-line FTP client to work in this
case, too.  For example:

C:\Users\sms>ftp v87
Connected to v87.antinode.info.
550 Failed to open file.
220 v87.antinode.info FTP Server (Version 6.0) Ready.
502 OPTS is unimplemented.
User (v87.antinode.info:(none)): system
331 Username system requires a Password
Password:

230 User logged in.
ftp> pwd
257 "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]" is current directory.
ftp> cd sms
250-CWD command successful.
250 New default directory is SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR.SMS]
ftp> quit
221 Goodbye.

C:\Users\sms>

   I don't remember if FTP (and/or Telnet) still need (Windows)
administrative action to be enabled, but if the FTP command is a mystery
to your Windows installation, then a quick Web search for terms like,
say:
      Windows FTP enable
should find instructions (and probably movies) with explanations.

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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by cct » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:32 pm

I use FileZilla from Windows- you can log in and browse to you destination

If from linux, I use scp
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Re: Configuring TCPIP, DHCP, FTP, and Telnet

Post by arne_v » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:11 pm

For hobbyist usage FTP may be just fine.

I usually use command line FTP client. WIndows -> VMS. Or actually more VMS -> Windows (yes - FTP service need to be enabled on Windows - it is not by default).

For the second option then I like the builtin FTP support in certain commands using old DECnet syntax:

$ copy/ftp/asc/log something.ext pc"username password"::"subdir/*.*"
$ copy/ftp/bin/log something.ext pc"username password"::"subdir/*.*"
$ copy/ftp/asc/log pc"username password"::"subdir/something.ext" *.*
$ copy/ftp/bin/log pc"username password"::"subdir/something.ext" *.*
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