Virtualbox and VMDK

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Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by aussiesusan » Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:48 pm

Environment: Windows 11 (fully patched) on an IntelNUC PC.
Installed VirtualBox 7.0.14r161095.

From the email I have downloaded the VMDK zip file and expanded ot to get the 2 VMDK files ('community' at 637 bytes, and 'community_flat' at 5.37GB).

Using the link in the email (https://d2h1r304.na1.hubspotlinks.com/C ... jf9fL1Z204) and following the 'Windows GUI' section, I get to the guide in step 2 (https://docs.vmssoftware.com/vsi-openvm ... eateVboxVM) but there my problem starts.

Step b) says to set the ISO image to the OpenVMS ISO file - is that the VMDK? If so which one?

If I try to use the VMDK image (either one) I get
Failed to open the disk image file C:\Users\Susan\Downloads\community.vmdk.

The medium 'C:\Users\Susan\Downloads\community.vmdk' can't be used as the requested device type (DVD, detected HDD).

Result Code:E_FAIL (0X80004005)
Component:MediumWrap
Interface:IMedium {ad47ad09-787b-44ab-b343-a082a3f2dfb1}
Callee:IVirtualBox {7682d5eb-f00e-44f1-8ca2-99d08b1cd607}
Callee RC:VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0X80BB0001)
What am I doing worng?

Susan


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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by sms » Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:16 pm

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>  I am not aware that they have dropped the free for non-commercial
> usage Player.

   On a couple of Macs, I'm using what identifies itself as:

      VMware Fusion
      Player Version 13.5.1 (23298085)
      Licensed for non-commercial use only.

(And keeping it licensed and updated is very much easier than doing so
for what I'm running on it.)


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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by steve_k » Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:30 am

vmsxpert wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:19 am
After I added vmdk file and VM1 got powered on.
But after reaching EFI shell i did this :
FS0:\\efi\vms>vms_bootmgr.efi <enter>
Command error status : Access Denied

Any clue here ...

Thanks
Sumit
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I''m running twin Hewlett Packard 110-005a-b PCs with Fedora 39 on one and Windows 10 on the other.
On Fedora 39 I have Oracle VirtualBox 7.0.16 and on Windows 10 I have Oracle VirtualBox 7.0.10.
On Fedora 39 I created a vmdk file then installed OpenVMS v9.2-1, then upgraded to OpenVMS v9.2-2.
On Windows 10 I use the Image Community.vmdk.
On Windows 10, my VirtualBox VM Storage is configured as follows:
Storage
Controllers: SATASK
SATA Port 0: Community.vmdk (Normal 5.00 GB)
SATA Port 1: Optical Drive Host Drive 'E:'

The community.vmdk file was copied onto Windows folder then I used Choose A DIsk File to choose the .vmdk file.


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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by vmsxpert » Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:50 am

I am Past those errors of "Access Denied " and "No Xsave instructions " and able to boot the VMS 9.2-2 with vmdk successfully on Oracle VM Virtualbox . We have to get rid of hyper-V and Virtualization based sec features . :D
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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by gdwnldsksc » Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:09 am

vmsxpert wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:50 am
I am Past those errors of "Access Denied " and "No Xsave instructions " and able to boot the VMS 9.2-2 with vmdk successfully on Oracle VM Virtualbox . We have to get rid of hyper-V and Virtualization based sec features . :D
I'm using VBOX and VMware Workstation both successfully with hyper-v enabled - due to my security configuration (VBS enabled) I can't (or won't, really) disable any of those features.


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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by jonesd » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:01 am

gdwnldsksc wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:09 am
vmsxpert wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:50 am
I am Past those errors of "Access Denied " and "No Xsave instructions " and able to boot the VMS 9.2-2 with vmdk successfully on Oracle VM Virtualbox . We have to get rid of hyper-V and Virtualization based sec features . :D
I'm using VBOX and VMware Workstation both successfully with hyper-v enabled - due to my security configuration (VBS enabled) I can't (or won't, really) disable any of those features.
The claim in https://wiki.vmssoftware.com/Windows_ho ... ox%20host. is that running with hyper-V enabled is slower than if disabled. This is echoed in section 2.33 of the Virtualbox documention. Has anyone tried to measure this effect with a VMS guest (e.g. compare the CPU and elapsed time from the sysinit accounting shown on the console)?

Does your CPU icon have a green turtle?


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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by drc68 » Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:36 am

snadow wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:18 pm
It's not pretty, but it's a start: I've written a brief document that takes VSI's instructions as a starting point, and have tweaked them for getting the community VMDK kit up-and-booted in VirtualBox under Windows. I've attached it to this post.

I don't claim any rights to it whatsoever, so feel free to use it, modify it, share it, wrap fish with it, or line bird cages with it.

Perhaps I'll get one "attaboy" from VSI for making a contribution to the community that they'd been hoping to see more of.

In advance, I apologize for the poor formatting. I don't have a PDF editor at my disposal, so using VSI's document meant copying-and-pasting from my screen into a Microsoft Word document. Likewise for their HTML web page.

The main point in doing this was to share info with my co-workers that try their best to support VMS but don't have much in the way of a "sandbox" system to play with and teach themselves. The community kit just might solve that for them.

Cheers,
Scott
Thanks for the write-up, I'll give it a try next chance I get. I've been on the road for the past week so time has been a tough commodity to chase.


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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by vmsxpert » Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:37 pm

I am getting a starnge error after putting first pwd as : alphabits000000(supplied by VSI)

Your password has expired; you must set a new password to log in
New password:
Verification:
Illegal password syntax
Please try again or press <CTRL/Y> to abort login

Verification:
Illegal password syntax
Please try again or press <CTRL/Y> to abort login

%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 22-APR-2024 22:26:59.09 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on V922
Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on V922, system id: 1025
Auditable event: Local interactive login failure
Event time: 22-APR-2024 22:26:59.08
PID: 0000041A
Process name: SYSTEM
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Terminal name: _OPA0:
Image name: V922$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]LOGINOUT.EXE
Posix UID: -2
Posix GID: -2 (%XFFFFFFFE)
Status: %SET-E-PWDSYNTAX, illegal password syntax

New password:

I am putting 15 char pwd as instructed in installation notes .any quick answers please .
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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by sms » Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:18 pm

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>  I am putting 15 char pwd as instructed in installation notes .any
>  quick answers please .

   With my weak psychic powers, I can't say what's wrong with the
(invisible) new password which you specified.

ITS $ help /mess /faci = set PWDSYNTAX

 PWDSYNTAX,  illegal password syntax

  Facility:     SET, SET Command and SET Utility

  Explanation:  A password was entered using incorrect syntax.

  User Action:  Enter a password using 1 to 31 alphanumeric characters, the
                dollar sign ($),  or the underscore (_) characters.


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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by jonesd » Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:53 pm

vmsxpert wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:37 pm
I am getting a starnge error after putting first pwd as : alphabits000000(supplied by VSI)

Status: %SET-E-PWDSYNTAX, illegal password syntax

New password:

I am putting 15 char pwd as instructed in installation notes .any quick answers please .
I had that error too. I worked around it by giving SYSTEM a new password from authorize (/nopwdexp).

Further investigation shows it may be a problem with the Putty configuration -- Under Connection Telnet, the checkbox for "Return key sends Telnet New Line instead of ^M" must be clear.
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Re: Virtualbox and VMDK

Post by dgordon » Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:18 pm

%SET-E-PWDSYNTAX, illegal password syntax
This message is almost always associated with the method in which you connect to the "console" on your x86 VMS VM. What's happening is that for "SECRETPASSWORD", the IO is returning "SECRETPASSWORD<CR>" and <CR> is not a valid password character. (It might not always be <CR>, but the effect is the same.)

I connect to my consoles using PUTTY with "Raw" as the connection type.
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